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Copyright question thread (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/thread.html#564)
Bear in mind there are other threads relevant to the discussion, however!
Thomas Hofer wondered how Wikipedia can properly include content from a third-party FDL document
[1] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000564.html), but the discussion veered to who holds copyright on the work on the pages
[2] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000566.html), inspired by a confusing entry on
Wikipedia FAQ (
Who owns Wikipedia?)
[3] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000568.html). It has since been amended, following Jimbo Wales's clarification of his view
[4] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000567.html). Larry and Jimbo then discussed some of the motivation for using the FDL in relation to their vision for Wikipedia
[5] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000569.html)
[6] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000571.html)
[7] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000570.html). Jimbo mentions that Wikipedia is using invariant sections
[8] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000565.html); Axel Boldt contradicted that and raised the issue of principal authors
[9] (
http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000573.html).
- Wikipedia has no records about copyright-holders in its diffs and changelogs. When I create or edit a page, the corporation that runs Wikipedia is the copyright-holder of all my changes - which minimizes copyright-troubles. (And gives the corporation the right to release modified or unmodified content under any other license if they want).
- But what happens when I insert a FDL document from a third party?-- Thomas Hofer, [10] (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000564.html)
- As far as I know, I have not signed away my copyright on the material I submit to Wikipedia. In my opinion, this means that I still hold the copyright of the pieces I have written, although the corporation is the copyright-holder of the site as a whole. I have not given up copyright, I just restricted my rights as the copyright holder by:
- 1. Putting the material under a Free Documentation License
- 2. Allowing any type of publishing and changing that one could reasonably expect be done to a Wikipedia entry--Andre Engels, [11] (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000566.html)
- I think that this view is essentially correct. --Jimbo Wales [12] (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000567.html)
- I think that the main thing we want to preserve is the simple operation of the community, and the ethos against authorship. --Jimbo Wales [13] (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000570.html)
- What you do if you hit the submit button on wikipedia is to release your material under GFDL, without invariant sections....
- There is however one issue: if I release my article to wikipedia under GFDL, Bomis, *per the GFDL, section 4B*, has to maintain information about at least five of the principal authors. I think the easiest way to do this would be to maintain unlimited page histories, maybe downloadable by FTP somewhere if the material gets to voluminous for the web server. --Axel Boldt [14] (http://www.nupedia.com/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-October/000573.html)
- See also : GNU Free Documentation License