Newsgroups: alt.uu.future,alt.education.distance From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Subject: GROUPS: DOC: A messy list of possible groups for UU Message-ID: <1992Aug5.183703.13216@nntp.hut.fi> Summary: nic.funet.fi:/pub/doc/uu/groups-doc Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 18:37:03 GMT Lines: 225 Available also by anonymous ftp from host nic.funet.fi, file pub/doc/uu/groups-doc. A somewhat clarified version, still very messy: Ideas for "meta" groups (should there be alt.uu.x.cafe etc. for these?): 1. Where is the pub? The most interesting, enjoyable, and possibly important aspect of face-to-face class work is the social interaction which frequently continues outside of the class setting. Is this possible in the UU setting, and if so, how will it work? It's going to be pretty gosh-darned difficult to have the class over for dinner at the end of the term, that's for sure! alt.uu.cafe Usenet University cafe A forum for unofficial discussions, humorous articles, flames, tongue-in-cheek articles, satire, art and so on. (other possible names: alt.uu.cafeteria, alt.uu.pub, alt.uu.gossip, alt.uu.chat, alt.uu.freeform, alt.uu.toilet-wall) alt.uu.admin Usenet University administration For discussions on administrating UU and also the administration (decision-making) process itself, perhaps/instead also a motion/email-vote run administration. alt.uu.pedagogy UU course design, pedagogy, course evaluation etc. A group to discuss design of courses, to give feedback on the didactics of courses, to discuss styles of learning in UU, teaching connected to UU etc. (other possible names: alt.uu.didactics, alt.uu.course-design) alt.uu.learning Learning techniques A group to discuss what learning techniques work best, exchange hints & tips on self-education and other styles of learning. (other possible names: alt.uu.learning-tech, alt.uu.learning.misc, alt.uu.students) alt.uu.library The information helpdesk of UU Is there need for such a group? For finding material on certain topics, the topical groups (alt.uu.lang.esperanto.misc) are probably better places to ask than alt.uu.library, but it would be possible to crosspost or perhaps leave alt.uu.library for discussions on more generic information resource needs, like FAQ's on "How do I find XXX?" (other possible names alt.uu.info-retrieval, alt.uu.resources, alt.uu.info-services) alt.uu.misc The catch-all discussion group of UU Misc. discussions on UU not suitable for other groups. Does there need to be a distinction alt.uu.cafe vs. alt.uu.misc? alt.uu.grading Discussions on grading in UU Just alt.uu.misc with keyword "GRADING" would probably suffice? alt.uu.advocacy Getting people interested in UU like the comp.*.advocacy groups An unorganized list of other possible "meta" groups: alt.uu.tools.lang alt.uu.tools.lang.esperanto alt.uu.tools.lang.russian a group for recommended books? other documents? (alt.uu.library would be for this, and perhaps could use material from alt.books.reviews?) - discussions for creation of new topics - "wanted" groups for new topics, for example alt.uu.lang.t-wanted Here's a very messy and unorganized list of proposed / possible groups for "disciplines" or "departments" of UU. Any work to organize it is welcomed. Thanks for everyone fo ideas and suggestions. Some possibilities for different styles of courses/study (as in alt.uu.math.xxx.forum, alt.uu.math.xxx.lab etc.): Newsgroups: alt.uu.future,alt.education.distance From: neveu@alcazar.rgl.polymtl.ca (Jean-Sebastien Neveu) Subject: Re: Usenet University. Learning Material. Accented Characters on PCs. Message-ID: <1992Jul10.191435.4983@vlsi.polymtl.ca> Organization: Recherche en genie logiciel References: <54917@apadravya.princeton.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 19:14:35 GMT Lines: 27 That makes me think there will be a serious need for a newsgroups expressly dedicated to such exchanges between teachers or anyone else interested. I just hope this kind of discussion will not suddenly emerge in groups identified as "classrooms". Otherwise all the students will be mixed up ! What about some categories of newsgroup. Here are some: 1) "classroom" groups 2) "forum" groups 3) "work-group" groups 4) "lab" groups 5) "administration" groups 6) your ideas... JS *:-) -- /************************************************************************\ * Jean-Sebastien Neveu, ing. jr. | Humain, sais-tu comme c'est interes- * * Laboratoire de Genie Logiciel | sant, cette chose que tu decris ? * * Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal | Avata n'a pas de dieu. Comment se * * CP 6079, succ. A, | fait-il que tu aies un dieu ? Avata * * Montreal, Quebec, H3C 3A7 | a le Soi, Avata a cet univers. Mais * * Tel: (514) 340-4599 | toi, tu as un dieu. Ou as-tu trouve * * FAX: (514) 340-3240 | ce dieu ? KERRO PANILLE * * E-Mail: neveu@rgl.polymtl.ca | Les traductions de l'Avata * \************************************************************************/ From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Subject: newgroup alt.uu.lang.misc Message-ID: <1992Jul22.133823.322@nntp.hut.fi> Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:38:23 GMT This group is part of the Usenet University. For futher information on UU, see directory pub/doc/uu on the machine nic.funet.fi. A "material" group means that the group exists for postings of course material, announcements, pointers to material and resources, essays, etc. relevant to the "department" of the group and/or the topic. This group is for one-time articles / posts - discussions are _not_ suitable for this newsgroup but should instead be held in a corresponding .misc group. Followups should be directed and posted there. On some UU groups (where there is a volunteer teacher / teachers) the material will be mostly for course-like work, on others for self-study, on others the main info will be something else. The conventions will form as time passes and while there are none, a wide range of relevant postings will appear. Later, different styles of learning will perhaps spin off different newsgroups. A "misc" group exists for discussions on learning, followups on the "material" group articles, and other discussion relevant to the department or topic. Then possible topics: alt.uu.lang.material alt.uu.lang.esperanto.material alt.uu.lang.spanish.material alt.uu.lang.spanish.misc alt.uu.lang.russian.material alt.uu.lang.russian.misc alt.uu.lang.russian.misc alt.uu.geography.material alt.uu.geography.misc alt.uu.math.material alt.uu.comp.material alt.uu.media.material alt.uu.philosophy.material alt.uu.philosophy.misc alt.uu.med.misc alt.uu.med.material alt.uu.virtual-worlds.material alt.uu.media.misc alt.uu.geography.misc alt.uu.philosophy.misc alt.uu.comp.gnu.elisp.misc alt.uu.comp.gnu.misc Material groups, how soon are they needed if at all? alt.uu.misc.material alt.uu.virtual-worlds.material alt.uu.lang.esperanto.material etc. I suggest the discussions on creating new alt.uu.math.* groups etc. should be carried out in alt.uu.math.misc, etc. - perhaps also crossposted to alt.uu.future. alt.uu.lang.esperanto.material alt.uu.virtual-worlds.material alt.uu.virtual-worlds.misc alt.uu.misc.material [ already created groups deleted ] Perhaps also the proposed alt.uu.lang.esperanto.tools and alt.uu.lang.esperanto.disc.uu groups, though I'm not sure about those. As there's no alt.uu.misc, that would leave alt.uu.futre for a "misc" group for now, which I would guess is sufficient. misc.misc and misc.material are the "misc" department of UU, ie. for learning on topics, not discussions on UU. Later there would perhaps be groups like alt.uu.med.admin for the med department administration things, alt.uu.media.papers (for posting papers on medical topics), alt.uu.media.seminar, alt.uu.media.announce (announcements on the media department), alt.uu.media.tutors (for announcing available volunteer tutors) etc, but those needn't be created now. >Actually, I think that there is already a great deal of educational use of >the nets - perhaps news is already fulfilling an important role in this >without having to formalise that any more.. but this last bit is just a >thought... This is true. But I'll try to make the originial idea of UU a bit more clear - it's not so much to formalize, but rather to better manage resources, to make people find resources better, whether the resources be teachers, self-study material, groups of students to teach, books on certain topics, descriptions of degress on ordinary universities, etc. etc. //Jyrki