Here are some numbers to start with they are derived from RMCI city generator using middling values (ie 51-150 use 100) for all the random bits the calculations are based on a population of 25,000. Yes I know a larger number was suggested but remember this is only a starting point and the numbers will probably increase. Army 2500 NCO's 125 Jnr Off's 25 Snr Off 5 Generals 1 Std Monks 125 Monasteries 1.25 Wr Mk Stds 87.5 Mk Stds 37.5 Wr Monks 17.5 Wr Monk Masters 1.75 Monk Masters .75 Clergy 166.6 Temples 55 Shrines 18.5 Squires 92.5 Paladins 46.25 Paladin Errants 46.25 Healers 250 Channel H'lrs 75 Lay Healers 175 Clinics 16.6 Underworld 250 Nightblades 25 Thieves 112.5 Rogues 112.5 Alchemists 250 Magicians 83.3 Illusionists 41.6 Academies 3.76 Bards 125 Theatres 12.5 Rangers 250 Sorcerers 25 Mystics 25 Agencies 6.25 Astrologers 41.6 Seers 41.6 Halls of Knowledge 3.3 Druids 25 Groves 2.5 Animists 41.6 Mentalists 41.6 Remember these numbers are just to give a starting point and they dont cover all professions others will need to be added as they crop up. Please bear in mind that some sub professions can be included under those prof's above ie Wizard is based on Magician, there are also a whole host of differing alchemists in Alchemy Comp. Again any ideas,misgivings or whatever let me know and if this list changes ill alter my master list and repost it here. ------------------------------- ------- >> Paul Owen << ------- firedrake@CIX.compulink.co.uk -------------------------------